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Goblin Tactician
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Post subject: Re: WAT Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:00 pm |
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Joined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 2:19 pm Posts: 728 Location: Boston
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Quote: For me, the message is clear. We cannot and should not rely on things going our way in the CCG or its storyline in order to have a good feeling about the Lion Clan. What I've told myself to do is this: Contribute. Make people laugh. Show people things they never knew about the game and its history. In short, I'm trying to create the kind of posts I want to read on this board. There are plenty of members and ex-members of this community who have much more to offer than I do, but I am doing what I can to make this a good place again. i feel like this might get glossed over if it don't quote it. this is the best post i've seen on the boards since we had this whole admin switch fiasco. posters like this make the board awesome. we need more posters like this. this is the kind of poster i want to be, is the the kind you want to be? let's lay off all the negativity, shall we?
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Kolb
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Post subject: Re: WAT Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:03 pm |
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Joined: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:07 am Posts: 20
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akodo jaku wrote: Not to marginalize the position, but does the admin really matter? Sure, some of us have a "stick it to the man" attitude. Yes, particularly going into the new arc, I feel AEG is being very antagonistic towards the Lion. When the fictions depict us near endlessly as incompetent, bullies, and easily defeated, yeah, it gets my hackles up. When our clan champion is killed in an off screen duel, and a member of the story team tells us to just accept it, and if we retaliate, its us being aggressors, thats a bitter pill to swallow. Some of our previews for this arc have been less than stellar, our guidance comes to mind. So I apologize if AEG's opinion of who runs our board means little to me. Sure, they can pull their previews from the site. I personally would be glad to see them go, and think they should revamp their entire system if they want to do clan previews.
But you know what all of this has in common? Its easily dismissed as "whining" if you don't agree with it. And it has, and should have, ZERO impact on who runs the board. Domotai has the job for two reasons. He stepped up and offered to do it, and Jed approved of him. Thats good enough for me, and should be good enough for anyone who chooses to post here. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!! In general, this would be a good example of Trolling. -Dom
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akodo jaku
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Post subject: Re: WAT Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:07 pm |
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Joined: Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:24 am Posts: 415
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Kolb wrote: akodo jaku wrote: Not to marginalize the position, but does the admin really matter? Sure, some of us have a "stick it to the man" attitude. Yes, particularly going into the new arc, I feel AEG is being very antagonistic towards the Lion. When the fictions depict us near endlessly as incompetent, bullies, and easily defeated, yeah, it gets my hackles up. When our clan champion is killed in an off screen duel, and a member of the story team tells us to just accept it, and if we retaliate, its us being aggressors, thats a bitter pill to swallow. Some of our previews for this arc have been less than stellar, our guidance comes to mind. So I apologize if AEG's opinion of who runs our board means little to me. Sure, they can pull their previews from the site. I personally would be glad to see them go, and think they should revamp their entire system if they want to do clan previews.
But you know what all of this has in common? Its easily dismissed as "whining" if you don't agree with it. And it has, and should have, ZERO impact on who runs the board. Domotai has the job for two reasons. He stepped up and offered to do it, and Jed approved of him. Thats good enough for me, and should be good enough for anyone who chooses to post here. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!! Thank you for so eloquently conceeding the point.
_________________ North American Taisa of the White Lion
"I may die for my choice, but I shall die pure."
 
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akodo jaku
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Post subject: Re: WAT Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:12 pm |
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Joined: Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:24 am Posts: 415
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Goblin Tactician wrote: Quote: For me, the message is clear. We cannot and should not rely on things going our way in the CCG or its storyline in order to have a good feeling about the Lion Clan. What I've told myself to do is this: Contribute. Make people laugh. Show people things they never knew about the game and its history. In short, I'm trying to create the kind of posts I want to read on this board. There are plenty of members and ex-members of this community who have much more to offer than I do, but I am doing what I can to make this a good place again. i feel like this might get glossed over if it don't quote it. this is the best post i've seen on the boards since we had this whole admin switch fiasco. posters like this make the board awesome. we need more posters like this. this is the kind of poster i want to be, is the the kind you want to be? let's lay off all the negativity, shall we? Awwww, but the negativity is just so much FUN!!!! I'll be the first to agree I can be negative at times, and should probably try to be a bit less. My reaction to Domotai being nominated is a reflection of this. Probably NOBODY on EITHEr set of boards have had as heated discussions as Dom's and I in the past, and yet I wholeheartedly have supported him in this. Why? Because he IS a good guy. His insights, while I may not always agree with them, are well thought out, and he stands up for them. Strong leadership is good. His accident with the AEG boards is way over blown, he didn't REALLY leak a card, and the fact that he did accidently leak a small description of an unreleased card does not make him a bad player, or a whiny extremist out to steal and reveal all othe previews.
_________________ North American Taisa of the White Lion
"I may die for my choice, but I shall die pure."
 
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Fox
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Post subject: Re: WAT Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:19 pm |
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Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:32 am Posts: 13
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akodo tenrou wrote: There is whinners in every clan of every game in every part of this whinning World you know  By the way I'm judging no one as I'm no judge. But TSS needed admin and moderators, and there wasn't as many candidates as it should have been. You could have voluntered. Every one could have. Boards need dedicated people to live on. And Domotai proposed himself. Now the question is better none or someone who dedicate himself? I don't know Domotai but I prefer someone in charge better than a dying board. Now you can propose your services if you care =) Im quoting this, but its in response to a few posts along these lines: No, I couldnt have spoken up. No, I couldnt have volunteered. These boards hadnt allowed new people to register to speak up on them for quite some time.
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Kolb
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Post subject: Re: WAT Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:28 pm |
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Joined: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:07 am Posts: 20
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akodo jaku wrote: Awwww, but the negativity is just so much FUN!!!!
I'll be the first to agree I can be negative at times, and should probably try to be a bit less. My reaction to Domotai being nominated is a reflection of this. Probably NOBODY on EITHEr set of boards have had as heated discussions as Dom's and I in the past, and yet I wholeheartedly have supported him in this. Why? Because he IS a good guy. His insights, while I may not always agree with them, are well thought out, and he stands up for them. Strong leadership is good. His accident with the AEG boards is way over blown, he didn't REALLY leak a card, and the fact that he did accidently leak a small description of an unreleased card does not make him a bad player, or a whiny extremist out to steal and reveal all othe previews. Umm, just because you argue with the guy and now are backing him does not make him a good choice, Hell I would go as far as saying anyone you backed would be a terrible choice. The facts are he spoiled information and he whines all the time that makes him a whiny extremist and someone who isn't smart enough to follow company policy.
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mlund
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Post subject: Re: WAT Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:35 pm |
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| Lion Clan * Monkey Clan * Kitsu Librarian |
Joined: Wed Sep 06, 2006 11:41 pm Posts: 337 Location: Phoenix, AZ
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The primary point of negativity that needs to be addressed on the board are personal attacks. Having a negative opinion of products, stories, and systems (negativity) is an entirely different kettle of fish than spending one's time crapping on those you disagree with (ad hominem attacks).
Yes, in some places the former is condemned and the latter is condoned as long as it supports curbing the former.
This should not be one of those places.
- Marty Lund
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Fox
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Post subject: Re: WAT Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:41 pm |
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Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:32 am Posts: 13
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mlund wrote: The primary point of negativity that needs to be addressed on the board are personal attacks. Having a negative opinion of products, stories, and systems (negativity) is an entirely different kettle of fish than spending one's time crapping on those you disagree with (ad hominem attacks).
Yes, in some places the former is condemned and the latter is condoned as long as it supports curbing the former.
This should not be one of those places.
- Marty Lund I disagree
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Domotai
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Post subject: Re: WAT Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:43 pm |
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| Lion Clan Ancestor • Reference Tool • Pretty Darned Old School |
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Joined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 1:28 pm Posts: 1178
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I believe there were post count resets last year and a board reset in 2008. I think. I cant remember for certain.
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akodo tenrou
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Post subject: Re: WAT Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:35 pm |
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Joined: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:03 pm Posts: 220
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Fox wrote: Im quoting this, but its in response to a few posts along these lines: No, I couldnt have spoken up. No, I couldnt have volunteered. These boards hadnt allowed new people to register to speak up on them for quite some time.
I'm not the board's technician bully, but, I've seen many posts quoting a problem on registration lately. That's a strange and unfortunate fate. But I would ask why you waited 'tin now and the admin change to register? Strange and unfortunate timing don't you think?  So now and then I'm not here for a debate, and I am not an investor on US Lion boards, so I just come to see topic talking about games, fun and people who don't care about board's politics. As long as the admin team make the jobs, I've nothing to complain about. Nor should anyone.
_________________ Soul of Kitsu Motso French Lion Board: The Lion's PrideKuronada's Destiny winner Paris's Level 20 store winner Multiple French Kotei top8/4
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Fox
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Post subject: Re: WAT Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:39 pm |
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Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:32 am Posts: 13
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akodo tenrou wrote: Fox wrote: Im quoting this, but its in response to a few posts along these lines: No, I couldnt have spoken up. No, I couldnt have volunteered. These boards hadnt allowed new people to register to speak up on them for quite some time.
I'm not the board's technician bully, but, I've seen many posts quoting a problem on registration lately. That's a strange and unfortunate fate. But I would ask why you waited 'tin now and the admin change to register? Strange and unfortunate timing don't you think?  So now and then I'm not here for a debate, and I am not an investor on US Lion boards, so I just come to see topic talking about games, fun and people who don't care about board's politics. As long as the admin team make the jobs, I've nothing to complain about. Nor should anyone. Domotai Post subject: Re: Spammer Problems.... Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 7:59 pm Lion Clan Janitor • Quite Dead Joined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:28 am Posts: 1075 Just as an update to this topic, I've adjusted the registration process. I cleared the queue, as well. If you know someone who previously had problems registering, go ahead and nudge them towards trying again. I'll do what I can to keep up with the requests. Notice how the registration was fixed on the 30th?
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Ikoma Atari
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Post subject: Re: WAT Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:45 pm |
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Joined: Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:10 pm Posts: 101
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Kolb wrote: Umm, just because you argue with the guy and now are backing him does not make him a good choice, Hell I would go as far as saying anyone you backed would be a terrible choice. The facts are he spoiled information and he whines all the time that makes him a whiny extremist and someone who isn't smart enough to follow company policy. It's obvious to me that you are very concerned about the direction of the community, and in particular, this board. You made those concerns clear before Jed made a decision on the new admin, even going so far as to suggest that this is something you would quit the board over. However, "the facts" you've presented do not tell the whole truth. Domotai is plainly more than someone who "spoiled information" and "whines all the time". To tell only one side of the truth and call that the whole is to speak falsely. Are you really so distressed by this that your concerns have now become the whole of your outlook? What kind of content do you want to see here that isn't whining? I am glad that you haven't quit. Please do consider working to make the board a good place for other users while you're here.
_________________ A samurai's greatest strength is not what he is, but what he can be. - Akodo
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akodo tenrou
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Post subject: Re: WAT Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:48 pm |
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Joined: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:03 pm Posts: 220
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@ Fox: I don't see your point. Be clearful, I'm not English you know 
_________________ Soul of Kitsu Motso French Lion Board: The Lion's PrideKuronada's Destiny winner Paris's Level 20 store winner Multiple French Kotei top8/4
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Fox
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Post subject: Re: WAT Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:50 pm |
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Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:32 am Posts: 13
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akodo tenrou wrote: @ Fox: I don't see your point. Be clearful, I'm not English you know  I 'waited until now' because I couldnt even post on the board until yesterday. I didnt have an account, because I couldnt REGISTER for this site until yesterday.
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Goblin Tactician
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Post subject: Re: WAT Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:04 pm |
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Joined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 2:19 pm Posts: 728 Location: Boston
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Quote: I didnt have an account, because I couldnt REGISTER for this site until yesterday. it's ironic that domotai is the one that fixed it, allowing you to complain about him being the new admin on a more serious note, i know domotai thinks it's fair that complains about him being the new admin are allowed to be voiced. however, let's keep this thread to supporting or opposing him being the admin, and leave out the personal attacks. stuff like this really isn't helpful: Quote: Hell I would go as far as saying anyone you backed would be a terrible choice. i'm not gonna give out any warnings/bans whatever because our new forum rules haven't been fleshed out yet, but i want to politely ask that people address concerns about domotai not other posters on this board. if you have a problem with another poster please take it to PM. (DON'T MAKE ME USE THE GREEN TEXT. I'LL DO IT!  )
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