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akodo jaku
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Post subject: What to fill the empty spaces with? Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:47 pm |
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OK, just to lighhten things up, and after the mention of Thuk Kigi's War Machine put a big smile on my face, I had a thought. We've seen most of the set now, but there are a few spaces left for returning cards. So, if you had your choice, what would you fill those slots with? Lets try to leave out the obvious OP cards, like Deadly Ground, Crushing Attack, etc. And most power Uniques. I'm sure we would all love to see Leadership come back, for example. For myself? Senseis. I really liked the way the Gold extended/ Diamond edition style senseis let you run a completely different deck out of a particular stronghold. It kept every Hall's deck from being the same. Strategy: Be Prepared to Dig Two Graves. This card would obviously lose the chi bonus, but the style and flavor of it was just awesome. Loved it. Personality: Akodo Yobi. Hes about the right stats for the current environment, well, maybe a little light on force, and his ability would put him into at least two of our decks. I really liked him. Follower: The Ashigaru Crew. Ah, the good ol days. Running a ton of followers with next to no force, but that card draw ability that made them work. Well, for cheap coverage, anyway.
_________________ North American Taisa of the White Lion
"I may die for my choice, but I shall die pure."
 
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Goblin Tactician
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Post subject: Re: What to fill the empty spaces with? Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:04 pm |
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Joined: Sat Sep 02, 2006 2:19 pm Posts: 724 Location: Boston
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goblins. a great big mess of goblins.
also formations, though they might not pass through the "obviously OP" filter...
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Post subject: Re: What to fill the empty spaces with? Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:18 pm |
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akodo jaku wrote: OK, just to lighhten things up, and after the mention of Thuk Kigi's War Machine put a big smile on my face, I had a thought. We've seen most of the set now, but there are a few spaces left for returning cards. So, if you had your choice, what would you fill those slots with? Lets try to leave out the obvious OP cards, like Deadly Ground, Crushing Attack, etc. And most power Uniques. I'm sure we would all love to see Leadership come back, for example. For myself? Senseis. I really liked the way the Gold edition style senseis let you run a completely different deck out of a particular stronghold. It kept every Hall's deck from being the same.Strategy: Be Prepared to Dig Two Graves. This card would obviously lose the chi bonus, but the style and flavor of it was just awesome. Loved it. Personality: Akodo Yobi. Hes about the right stats for the current environment, well, maybe a little light on force, and his ability would put him into at least two of our decks. I really liked him. Follower: The Ashigaru Crew. Ah, the good ol days. Running a ton of followers with next to no force, but that card draw ability that made them work. Well, for cheap coverage, anyway. The gold legal senseis were so awesome they were invisible! way to have a clue on what you were talking about! Gold edition didnt have senseis!
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Ikoma Atari
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Post subject: Re: What to fill the empty spaces with? Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:31 pm |
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Ikoma Itagi.
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Post subject: Re: What to fill the empty spaces with? Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:44 pm |
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Am I the only one who pictures kolb as a curmudgeonly old man? 
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Post subject: Re: What to fill the empty spaces with? Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:46 pm |
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Goblin Tactician wrote: also formations, though they might not pass through the "obviously OP" filter... Oh, come on, Invincible Legions and Rain of Death are probably completely balanced under the default Once Per Turn rule.  It's getting Forward Sentries past the power-level radar that would prove a problem. Oh, and Archer Squad's mention of combining Ranged Attacks would probably need to be re-worded. - Marty Lund
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Ikoma Atari
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Post subject: Re: What to fill the empty spaces with? Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:09 pm |
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I picture Kolb as being on my ignore list. So let me know if I'm missing anything. Outmaneuvered by Tactics would be a laugh, as would Advance Forces.
_________________ A samurai's greatest strength is not what he is, but what he can be. - Akodo
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Post subject: Re: What to fill the empty spaces with? Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:35 pm |
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Quote: Oh, come on, Invincible Legions and Rain of Death are probably completely balanced under the default Once Per Turn rule.  hahaha applying the opt rule certainly makes daigotsu's discipline (a formation a seriously abused at the end of lotus) look less scary too
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akodo jaku
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Post subject: Re: What to fill the empty spaces with? Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:57 pm |
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Kolb wrote: The gold legal senseis were so awesome they were invisible!
way to have a clue on what you were talking about! Gold edition didnt have senseis!
Ooops, your mostly right! They were Diamond/ Gold Extended legal. My mistake, thanks for being kind enough to point it out. Fall on Your knees would also be an awesome addition. Used to love that one in multiplayer games. It would be great for WoH. We ALMOST have a playable formation. Brothers in Battle is pretty darn close to being one.
_________________ North American Taisa of the White Lion
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Post subject: Re: What to fill the empty spaces with? Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:01 pm |
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Matsu Yoshino wrote: Am I the only one who pictures kolb as a curmudgeonly old woman?  Now it is correct.  Ontopic: During Diamond(i.e. Gozoku Sensei)/Lotus(i.e. Orochi Sensei) Senseis were a pain in the ass and nearly impossible to balance. Looking at Dislodge the Foe I would love (evil laughter) Slaughter the Scout  . Also Superior Strategist, Superior Tactics, Charge in combination with Strength of Purity. And... Akodo Hashigoro... 
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Post subject: Re: What to fill the empty spaces with? Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:23 pm |
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Turi wrote: Ontopic: During Diamond(i.e. Gozoku Sensei)/Lotus(i.e. Orochi Sensei) Senseis were a pain in the ass and nearly impossible to balance.
that's more of an issue with that particular design team's 'balance' work (case in point, test of enlightenment) than a failing of the sensei card type in general.
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Post subject: Re: What to fill the empty spaces with? Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:35 pm |
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chris wrote: Turi wrote: Ontopic: During Diamond(i.e. Gozoku Sensei)/Lotus(i.e. Orochi Sensei) Senseis were a pain in the ass and nearly impossible to balance.
that's more of an issue with that particular design team's 'balance' work (case in point, test of enlightenment) than a failing of the sensei card type in general. Perhaps. And it was not there biggest mistake (Aramasu's Pride, The Khol Wall, Doji Saori, Utaku Tarako, Chitik...) Hmm ok I think Test of Enlightenment was the biggest mistake AND I felt ill-treated by the Design Team as a Lionplayer (damn I played more Mantis than Lion at that time  ). I know I am wrong... 
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Post subject: Re: What to fill the empty spaces with? Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:58 am |
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akodo jaku wrote: Kolb wrote: The gold legal senseis were so awesome they were invisible!
way to have a clue on what you were talking about! Gold edition didnt have senseis!
Ooops, your mostly right! They were Diamond/ Gold Extended legal. My mistake, thanks for being kind enough to point it out. Fall on Your knees would also be an awesome addition. Used to love that one in multiplayer games. It would be great for WoH. We ALMOST have a playable formation. Brothers in Battle is pretty darn close to being one. no I was completely right there were exactly 0 legal senseis in the gold arc
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akodo jaku
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Post subject: Re: What to fill the empty spaces with? Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:04 am |
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Kolb wrote: akodo jaku wrote: Kolb wrote: The gold legal senseis were so awesome they were invisible!
way to have a clue on what you were talking about! Gold edition didnt have senseis!
Ooops, your mostly right! They were Diamond/ Gold Extended legal. My mistake, thanks for being kind enough to point it out. Fall on Your knees would also be an awesome addition. Used to love that one in multiplayer games. It would be great for WoH. We ALMOST have a playable formation. Brothers in Battle is pretty darn close to being one. no I was completely right there were exactly 0 legal senseis in the gold arc Well, I suppose that's one way to look at it. What can I say, I just remembered playing them with gold edition cards. My mistake, half an arc off. No worries. Still, it would be nice to see them come back.
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Post subject: Re: What to fill the empty spaces with? Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:03 am |
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akodo jaku wrote: Well, I suppose that's one way to look at it. What can I say, I just remembered playing them with gold edition cards. My mistake, half an arc off. No worries. Still, it would be nice to see them come back. I expect that they're being held in reserve in case the environment needs rebalancing.
_________________ A samurai's greatest strength is not what he is, but what he can be. - Akodo
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